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Nitrous X Repliku! I thought by finding some new strength, I could finally be someone...Someone who is not at all you! But... nothing changes... I'm still just empty! Everything about me is borrowed. As long as you're around, I'll never be more than a shadow!

A faithful replica until the very end. That's...Okay

It has come to my attention that an act of plagiarism has occurred. Not only is this a federal offense, but it's also the same as stealing. Currently, there isn't a rule against it on this wiki, but if all goes well, there will be one soon. Under no circumstances are you to copy and paste something word-for-word and use it in your article. If you are making a template and you use the coding of another template as a base, that's fine. But if you don't make huge changes to it that set it apart from the original, it's just a carbon copy. That is plagiarism. Consequences may be very severe if this happens again. So please, use your own ideas!
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LegoAlchemist http://i899.photobucket.com/albums/ac193/LegoAlchemist/Vsymbol.png Something bad is happening. I don't know what me, Harold, you, or Bradley have to do with it, but as long as I have the Keyblade, the ability to fight this threat, I can't sit around. -- Owen Stevens
TALK - Don't answer that. "?" isn't a question. -- LA
http://i899.photobucket.com/albums/ac193/LegoAlchemist/Vsymbol.png Thank you very much for posting this, Nitrous. Indeed, plagerism is a BIG issue, and I believe it must be abolished IMMEDIATELY. In fact, I think that, as soon as it becomes a real rule, plagerism should be dealt with more severely than other rules, as it isn't only stealing, it's against the law.

I made it a rule, listed on the vandalism policy (link to it on the main page), and it is more severe than normal vandalism, but there are some instances where it's a total accident (read: great minds think alike). King Nothing Where's your crown? 12:35, May 24, 2010 (UTC)

Looks good to me! That is true, it could be accidental. I'm glad that's addressed there. Thanks, MUZ! --NitrousXΩ



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Nitrous X Who am I? — Roxas, don't be sad. I came from you and Sora. I am you... the same way that I am Sora. You'll forget me, but the memories themselves will never go away. Memories of you and me will always be together... forever, inside him.

I'm sorry, but... I can't go with you. It's my friends - they need me. And I need them, too.

Well first of all, I don't think he did it on purpose. And techincally there wasn't a rule against it, but it's still a crime. But still, I don't think he should be punished because from what I've seen, it looked like an accident, there was no official rule against it, and he undid his edits.

*sigh* It was Zach.

*Insert facepalm and more profanity than you can shake a Keyblade at here* Fucking figures, I suppose. Some days, I'm very sorely tempted to block him just because he pisses me off. Besides, I could use practice for the real vandals out there.... King Nothing Where's your crown? 20:22, May 24, 2010 (UTC)

Even through we don't officially write it down as a rule here on the wiki, it is always a rule! No matter where you are or what you do, if you use something that someone else has created and claim it as your own, that is Plagiarism, and that is against the law. If someone uploads an image by someone else and claims it as his or her own, that person is given a warning. If a person uses a part of something else in his writing, and does not say where it came from and claims it as his own, that person gets a warning. You see, if any kind of an act of Plagiarism is done, a warning is thrown at the person! However, there are occasions when this is done on accident, but then you simply inform the user of this, and if he does the mistake of saying that it is his own, a warning is thrown at his face.
Templates are a completely different matter! It is in all ways ok for a person to use another persons template as a base for his own, and it is enough to merely change the colors and name. We don't want to have to work on making every bloody template have it's own template style, now do we? - IceboySvalur! 23:50, May 24, 2010 (UTC)


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Nitrous X Talk to me, Mogmi. "I may not have a heart, but what I'm feeling now is real. This is who I am, a Nobody, and that's not going to change any time soon."

You can't stop the end from coming, no matter who you are.

Oh, I owe you an apology then, Zach. I'm sorry.


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LegoAlchemist http://i899.photobucket.com/albums/ac193/LegoAlchemist/Vsymbol.png Go back to where you belong. -- Owen Stevens
TALK - AAARGH, WOULD YOU SHUT THE HELL UP AND LISTEN?!?! -- LA to his father
http://i899.photobucket.com/albums/ac193/LegoAlchemist/Vsymbol.png Now WAIT A FRIGGEN SECOND! Templates are NOT another matter! Well, I suppose they could be another case, but, Xiggie, you have NO idea how long it took me to get that template working properly, and when I find the EXACT template as a different color scheme on a random page, HOW DO YOU THINK I'M SUPPOSED TO FEEL?! Dammit, making the tabber coding took HOURS!!! Templates are the exact SAME matter! It's still a piece of work that took a long time of contributing to make, it shouldn't be fair that you should just "take it", is it's still YOURS and when he takes it WITHOUT PERMISSION..... RRRRRGHRRHGHGjaors[';

I'll talk more about this later. I'm in fricken school! For crying out loud!


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maggosh Disappear! "That's a nice expression."

You're terrified, aren't you?

I'll have to agree. Coding is just as much intellectual property as images or text is.


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Xiggie Buy / Sell Welcome! What do you wanna do?

Just because we're kids doesn't mean we can't run a business— 18:47, May 25, 2010 (UTC)

Wait, what did Zach do?

Anyway, you do realize that most of the templates on this wiki follow my original template design... and I am completely OK with anyone using it in any way...

EDIT: Ahh, now I know the situation. Yes, what Zach did was just copying your template in every way, and then change the color. I still think that this should be allowed, but credit should be given to the template creator! It is better to at least slightly change the fields, though...

My talk buble is essentially a copy/paste/edit ripoff of one Lady Annette used back in the day, but I asked, she was OK with it, and the matter was closed. King Nothing Where's your crown? 19:45, May 25, 2010 (UTC)

First, let me apologize for my anger. It was unnecessary, and unfair. Allow me to rephrase what it was I need to say.
@Xiggie: I absolutely agree. Any template can be used as a base here on the wiki. HOWEVER. If a template is taken as a "base", more than just the color scheme should be altered. If all they're going to do is change the color scheme, then they might as well ask the creator and user of the template if they can too.
The reason I saw ZACH's template as plagerism is because, well, for one, it was the exact same as my template, only with an altered color scheme. Two, I keep little hints inside my templates to know if they're mine or not, and ZACH didn't get rid of any of them. The most instant and obvious proof was that ZACH didn't change the "Area's Fought" Section on the template, when the "Areas" instead of "Worlds" is something used almost exclusively in my story. Had he have changed that, I might not have been so steamed about it- No. That is a lie. I would still have been angry because of my accomplishment in making the tabber coding functional, which we all know was a big problem with the coding. Had ZACH, no, any user actually asked to copy the template, I might have even said yes, either that, or "I'll make a template for you". In fact, I made one for maggosh that was almost an exact duplicate of my template, albeit color scheme and some field changes.
So, in direct response to you, Xiggie, I do wish ZACH could've asked, or AT LEAST given me credit. As for your second statement, the one about people allowed to copy other templates, i disagree, especially with story exclusive templates marked specifically with stuff like "AKH". Now, when I say this, I'm not talking about the weapon template. That may be marked with "AKH", but I made it with the intention of letting everyone use it.
So, here's the conclusion to my speech. I think, that when it comes to templates, BASES may be used, but no one can only change the color scheme, as that clearly marks, to me, as an act of filthy plagerism, which is NEVER allowed. (Also, generic wiki templates like the expand or character templates are pretty much open for fair use, as no one is likely to make duplicates of them) Can't we just agree that story exclusive templates should not be plagerized without the creator or the user of the template's consent? That way, we can avoid these little skirmishes, make it plain and simple, avoid the drama, and actually get back to editing the wiki. As I see, there are quite a few projects here, including mainspace, Kingdom Hearts Legacy rewrite, and the Staff Page re-amp. --LegoAlchemist 20:02, May 25, 2010 (UTC)
Whoa!! Don't get so steamed. I didn't know exactly what had happened, so I went based off of what I knew. Now that I know it was that Tabbertab template he copied, I can certainly say that ZACH may have reached a new low. And I agree with you on every point, LA. Either permission should be granted beforehand, or the template should receive more than just a color change. Now that I have the information, I completely understand the situation. And no worries about getting so angry about it. Everyone has to let off some steam at some point, and it sounds like you put a momentous amount of effort into the template, so you had a right to be angry. But next time...just try not to blow our heads off...*Sweatdrop*--ShadowXemnas Nothingness...is...ETERNAL!!! 14:03, May 26, 2010 (UTC)
The Rookie - Feet First to Hell!
TALK - Halo 3: ODST -{{{time}}}
"Indeed, Plagerism it is an insult" -Armando Mendez and Lego take a break. This place ain't 4chan (through I've been there and I had somewhat of a pleasent experience of Falcon Punches and Kicks also humorus gifs.... speekin of 4chan, I couln't care less is some moron just comes right in and copypastas an article to his! You all of you even Admins and Mods! Take a break on this and thing of MOAR "Important Issues" like givin me a User Badge for being the first op kay?


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maggosh Disappear! "That's a nice expression."

You're terrified, aren't you?

You're missing the whole point.
The Rookie - Feet First to Hell!
TALK - Halo 3: ODST -{{{time}}}
Guess so, still, this is th reason why Zach's famous fanon wiki got closed by DTN with the same word "Plagiarism" so I virtually do not care.


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LegoAlchemist http://i899.photobucket.com/albums/ac193/LegoAlchemist/Vsymbol.png Something bad is happening. I don't know what me, Harold, you, or Bradley have to do with it, but as long as I have the Keyblade, the ability to fight this threat, I can't sit around. -- Owen Stevens
TALK - Don't answer that. "?" isn't a question. -- LA
http://i899.photobucket.com/albums/ac193/LegoAlchemist/Vsymbol.png MC, I respect you as a user, but seriously, stop trying to act cool and think you know what the situation is. Just because you and ZACH have this little hate-ship inducing feud going on, stop trying take apart the situation to make us look like idiots. This is a serious matter. Plagiarism is one of the only rules on the wiki that is actually against the law, and also one of the easiest rules to break. So stop acting older than you are and treating everyone else like you can just show them your hand and imply that you're superior. That behavior has to stop. If you have nothing useful to contribute to the discussion, just leave it. For the record, I already said that this conversation doesn't have to go on any longer, you don't need to come in and start ranting about "our position here on the wiki" and "4chan". The last thing I think any one wants to do is give you a user badge right now. For the record, I think you would have made an excellent mod, but not if your behavior stays the way it is. In addition to certain responsibilities, you need to start showing some maturity.
Jason Voorhees - Pamela....why...?
TALK - Friday The 13th! -{{{time}}}
Hello Lego /b/... um... Thanks? I know "Plagiarism" and it is indeed a unintelligent act. However, even if we make this a rule, how can we find out where did that information come from? Also, vandals loves to disobey the rules, so if that happens and they get information on something how CAN we find out? To me, I say I do not care because... I don't like users to dislike me dispite my "Arrogant" and "Careless" personality I actually care about what users think of me. Not a, Angry human of copypasta-ing or A person who commits it. Matter of fact, If you get frustrated about this, what will happen? Nothing. So humble moderator. Take a break, I know it is wrong. But, I just act careless. And on that mature note... I'm Eight years old y'know.


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maggosh Disappear! "That's a nice expression."

You're terrified, aren't you?

Augh...did you even read what he said? Your holier-than-thou attitude is really getting on our nerves.
The Rookie - Feet First to Hell!
TALK - Halo 3: ODST -{{{time}}}
I should SERIOUSLY remove my ranting huh? Sorry guys!